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July 12 2011

 

The gloves are off. WSIB wants to try and enforce me to do something illegal, dangerous, and counter productive. And all just to clear my case before the 72 month lock in. Well guess what, I’m not just going to roll over and play your game. I am an injured worker and I HAVE RIGHTS!

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  1. We pray for each others health and successful reintegration with own lives and community! Please take a time to familiarize yourself with info I provided, addressing issues with medications, Doctor’s motives and WSiB’s politics/policies.
    You (as all Injured Workers) were victimized once by accident and second time for ever you are being victimize by WSiB /”SYSTEM”.
    You (IW) are BEING PSYCHOLOGICALLY SCARED FOR EVER (IF THAT SITUATION WILL CONTINUE) WHILE STRUGGLING EVERY DAY WITH HEALTH ISSUES AND UNCERTAINTY / INSECURITY OF TOMORROW DUE TO WSiB’s “GAMES”!!!!!!! WSiB suppose to provide a safety net for unfortunate and fragile emotionally Injured Workers (while all their world collapses in front of their eyes) and it does right opposite! You as all IW are misinformed, mistreated, deteriorating and being constantly tormented ! Take a charge of your situation. EDUCATE YOUR SELF ABOUT YOUR CONDITION, PRESCRIBED MEDS etc.The best to you. Regards,

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    Comment by Andrew | April 18, 2011, 9:49 PM

  2. I do have number of Pages about my Case posted on your Blog under WSiB Fraudulent Agency.Can you accept 300 more?

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    Comment by Andrew | April 18, 2011, 10:12 PM

  3. April 20th.2011, The day my doctor has laid it out plain, simple, and crystal clear. She believes I will never work again. Now that’s a pretty heavy statement to make and I just kinda looked at her and said “what do you mean I’m sure at some point I could do something” and she said “like what”. So I thought about it for a moment and said that there were days when I was able to do “something”, and that’s when I got her meaning/ Not too many jobs will have an employee that occasionally is able to do “something”. I’m sure I will be able to figure something out in the future as far as working from home in some kinda capacity doing “something” but for right now I have to concentrate on getting a handle on this pain, and not dwell on not going back to work. It was always right there and I thought just take care of this pain and I can move on. But has proven to not be that simple. I’m now completely de-conditioned and have lost all my core strength, it will be a battle just to get back to where I was when I had to stop working, if that’s possible at all. The pain is unbelievable, even with the meds. I don’t understand why they cannot operate. The surgeon that did the first operation on me for this said he would not do it again unless it got as bad as the first time. Well thankfully it has not but it’s bad enough, it has destroyed my whole life (and my families) and has left me a shell of my former self. Is that not bad enough? Apparently not.

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    Comment by Beast | April 20, 2011, 8:47 PM

  4. I cant remember where but I saw something that mentioned being able to sue an employer regardless of WSIB if they were negligent and responsible for the accident?

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    Comment by Beast | April 20, 2011, 9:28 PM

  5. Beast,
    It is a sad news but not unexpected.
    Knowing briefly history of your condition I new what this is leading in to but I did not want to torment you additionally / prematurely.
    Well , Doctor operating on your back in most cases does SEVER ONE OR MORE OF THE NERVE “CORDS” IN ORDER TO eliminate sensory communication( and sensation of pain).Now it is time to think about how you can secure your financial situation on LONG TERM so you do not have to deal with the same problems as follow IW with brain damage (after 8 years dumped by WSiB). In general back conditions deteriorate (degenerative diseases). More intervention, MORE PROBLEMS!
    MANY TIMES UNTREATED /UNDISTURBED NERVE’S TRAUMA HEALS ITSELF AS NERVE CELLS DO HAVE THAT UNIQUE ABILITY DO REGENERATE /RE-MODIFY / RE- LEARN (KIND OF SELF RE-CONFIGURATION AND DIMINISH OF PAIN SENSATION).NO MORE SCALPEL INTERVENTION / ANY PHYSICAL TRAUMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THAT IS THE CONDITION for improvement if any must come.
    I think, that WSiB contributed big time to deterioration of your condition.
    NOW BE PREPARED FOR “LMR” or Social Services if you do not wrap up all of it legally and that can be very difficult in the present systemic disfunctiality.
    Yes, there are avenues to SUE and I provided some tips in my entries but you were quick to delete them. May be you have them in your Recycle Bin?
    Regards ,WSiB’s victim

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    Comment by Andrew | April 20, 2011, 10:31 PM

    • I already went through the LMR process before I had the appeal, that has been done and dealt with. They are concentrating now on helping with pain management, and though the “logistics” of complying with their requests is very inconvenient if it helps then I’m all for it. If there was something deleted then you’ve been informed as to the reasons why. Re-word it and try again. As to the operation it was successful in that it gave me almost 3 years living pain free, but unfortunately it re-occurred. No nerve cords were damaged, and the injury led to my condition not WSIB. Yes I have had problems with them but they have also helped a lot. We both know dealing with the Government is not always easy. How we choose to deal with them is equally as important.

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      Comment by Beast | April 20, 2011, 10:54 PM

  6. WELL, I am stating one thing and you do other.
    ” I already went through the LMR process before I had the appeal, that has been done and dealt with”- UNFORTUNATELLY THAT IS NOT A STATUS QUO.
    Post # 3: “In a nutshell, when a worker is hurt on the job the ideal outcome is to support the worker through rehabilitation and return to the same job. But sometimes that isn’t possible. Imagine a construction worker who has lost the full use of one arm, or a truck driver who is no longer qualified to drive because of some impairment. Then the WSIB kicks up their LMR program, designed to get the worker back on the market in some other job.
    It all sounds very good, but really it comes down to some very brutal math. A worker who has been hurt is entitled to support from the WSIB. The WSIB doesn’t want to pay that support all the way to age 65 and retirement, so if it’s cheaper to put the worker back to school that’s what happens. It’s not altruistic. It’s the barest kind of pragmatism.
    As a result of LMR, I end up working with a lot of clients who are going back to school. Women and men in their 30’s and 40’s and 50’s who have been injured on the job and now are retraining to do some other job. And more and more I see their experiences as simply another reflection of various problems that are at work in our education system.

    Thats exactly what did after I had surgery, went back to school on my own without any help from WSIB (they didnt offer) and proceeded with a new career. This time around that is not an option. If it was I would take it. Just because a worker has been injured does not mean they get benefits for life, if they CAN work. Beast

    To begin with, these students made no considered decision to return to school. When a worker is injured and can’t return to pre-accident employment that worker’s benefits depend on cooperation with the LMR process. So in order to avoid losing all income and ending up on welfare (a real danger – I’m not exaggerating) the worker may literally be forced back into school.”
    WSiB has the power to reassess you at any time and adjust your situation/statute accordingly (example entry # 8 – after 8 years David Meade ).
    Now, after your medical condition was again reassessed it is time for WSiB to start new strategy.
    UNFORTUNATELLY TO YOU, YOU YOUR SELF PROOFED TO WSiB that you are very capable to provide for your self by creating your “Blog” and two or so of your websites.
    That conformed that you are not entitled to be on WSiB’s assistance (you do have to mitigate damages by doing your part to provide for your self – be re-employed). You are doing exceptional job in cyberspace so you can successfully work on electronic networks (very well paid jobs).

    Just because I write a few things occasionally on a blog hardly means anything. I’ve never claimed to be a complete invalid you are exaggerating to the extreme.

    “They are concentrating now on helping with pain management”-the pain science (pain pathophysiology) are on such low level, that what ever they do / subject you to is a “sneak oil” / “placebo”. We all experience pain, but we all experience our own form of pain. It is a peculiarly subjective sensation, with an almost infinite variety of forms. Paradoxically, while we all know pain, it almost defies definition. Chronic pain – you should explore the benefits of psychological and physical therapies for chronic pain relief.
    In the past three decades, a scientific revolution has occurred in the understanding of the experience of pain. However, a clinical revolution based on the new science is yet to occur. Pain is a multidimensional experience with many contributing and interacting biological/pathobiological mechanisms. These mechanisms may be nociceptive, peripheral neurogenic, central, affective/cognitive or relate to output systems such as the motor and autonomic nervous system. With a better understanding of pain-related neurobiology and some clinical decision making skills, reasoned attempts at a diagnosis of pain can be made. The essential question and first step related to clinical integration is to ask, “what is (are) the predominant mechanism(s) in a given patient’s pain state?”
    In a boon for pain research, American and Italian scientists say they have found a new drug that allows a marijuana-like substance to control pain at a specific site in the body. Their study suggests cannabinoid compounds could be used in new pain medications that are non-addictive and non-sedative, unlike opiates.
    Pain’s, an unpleasant sensation which may be associated with actual or potential tissue damage and which may have physical and emotional components.etc., etc.
    “If there was something deleted then you’ve been informed as to the reasons why.”- Well that was your opinion and you did dump a “baby with the bath”.You deleted info which could benefit you.
    “As to the operation it was successful in that it gave me almost 3 years living pain free, but unfortunately it re-occurred.” – So it was not successful, just interrupted communication of pain sensation by “cutting” nerve connections.
    THEN AS I AM STRESSING, NERVE CONNECTIONS (a network of specialized cells called neurons that coordinate the actions) RECONFIGURED AND STARTED TO TRANSMIT /ALERT CENTRAL NERVE SYSTEM /BRAIN ABOUT DAMMAGE IN PAIN AREA etc.,etc.
    “And the injury led to my condition not WSIB.”- YES ON THE BEGINNING, BUT ANY (MOST) “SCALPEL” INTERVENTIONS DO LEAD TO DEGENERATIVE DISORDERS, PROLONGING CONDITION etc. (DO YOU KNOW THAT “AMPUTEES” DO FILL PAIN LONG AFTER /OFTEN FOR EVER AFTER LIMB AMPUTATION) – phantom limb etc.etc.
    “The nervous system is an organ system containing a network of specialized cells called neurons that coordinate the actions of an animal and transmit signals between different parts of its body. In most animals the nervous system consists of two parts, central and peripheral. The central nervous system of vertebrates (such as humans) contains the brain, spinal cord, and retina. The peripheral nervous system consists of sensory neurons, clusters of neurons called ganglia, and nerves connecting them to each other and to the central nervous system. These regions are all interconnected by means of complex neural pathways. The enteric nervous system, a subsystem of the peripheral nervous system, has the capacity, even when severed from the rest of the nervous system through its primary connection by the vagus nerve, to function independently in controlling the gastrointestinal system.
    Neurons send signals to other cells as electrochemical waves traveling along thin fibers called axons, which cause chemicals called neurotransmitters to be released at junctions called synapses. A cell that receives a synaptic signal may be excited, inhibited, or otherwise modulated. Sensory neurons are activated by physical stimuli impinging on them, and send signals that inform the central nervous system of the state of the body and the external environment. Motor neurons situated either in the central nervous system or in peripheral ganglia, connect the nervous system to muscles or other effector organs. Central neurons, which in vertebrates greatly outnumber the other types, make all of their input and output connections with other neurons. The interactions of all these types of neurons form neural circuits that generate an organism’s perception of the world and determine its behavior. Along with neurons, the nervous system contains other specialized cells called glial cells (or simply glia), which provide structural and metabolic support.”
    Regards,

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    Comment by Andrew | April 21, 2011, 11:49 AM

  7. Beast, then why are you thinking about suing your employer?
    I wish to you the best, but think what you do want to accomplished to be able to manage your situation.
    1. Go back to work
    2. Sue the employer.
    3. Stay on WSiB as long ac you can / need etc., etc.
    Regards,

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    Comment by Andrew | April 21, 2011, 12:46 PM

    • I want to return to work, because I enjoyed my job and the money was very good. I am getting 75% of what I made in 2004, not my most recent salary which was 3 times that. Since this condition appears to be a life long thing or very long term now it changes my direction, and I feel changes the employers responsibility.

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      Comment by Beast | April 21, 2011, 1:48 PM

  8. Your long / life time medical problems definitely classify you to go after neglectful (if that is the case) employer.
    The thing is that WSiB system introduced NO FAULT SITUATION WHICH WITH SO MANY SYSTEMIC DEVIATIONS (against Injured Workers) created SYSTEM OF OPPRESSION not a safety net.
    Stating so LAW STARTS TO RECOGNIZE THOSE problems and it does provide some avenues of recourse for Injured Workers stipulated in Bill C-45 , Charter of Human Rights, Labour Law/ Employment Standards etc.
    Also due to your PERMANENT SUFFER you are entitled for PUNITIVE DAMAGES.
    WSiB did not bring you to the ORIGINAL STATE!
    You are sentenced for life of suffer which does / will trigger other conditions and for sure psychological, will limit your enjoyment of life, will restrict your participation in family /romantic life etc., etc., etc. SOME ONE IS LIABLE FOR ALL OF THAT AND THAT IS YOUR EMPLOYER IF YOUR INJURY OCCURRED DUE TO EMPLOYERS NEGLIGENCE.
    If your injury are ACCIDENTAL, THEN WSiB is the “CARE GIVER” TO YOU.

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    Comment by Andrew | April 21, 2011, 2:07 PM

    • I have just started looking in to the possibility of legal action once getting the bad news, I’m not sure I can but quite sure it wont be easy. I don’t want to discuss too much of the situation in case I do proceed. Suffice to say I am confident the evidence would show clear negligence and could have been prevented.

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      Comment by Beast | April 21, 2011, 2:44 PM

  9. AFTER YOUR ACCIDENT (AFTER YOU DID CHANGE YOUR PROFESSION) YOU MANAGED TO MAKE 3 (THREE) TIMES MORE then prior to accident.
    Well now you got to ask your self, what is the factor tormenting your life, whether your medical (not rectified) medical condition or the economical situation on the labour market ( then psychological factor / stress generates your pain sensation at cured injury location )?

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    Comment by Andrew | April 21, 2011, 2:22 PM

    • Not sure what you are trying to say here. The financial effect is different than the physical effect. Both severe and impact me, my life, and my family in different ways.

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      Comment by Beast | April 21, 2011, 2:47 PM

  10. WSiB is obligated to reassess / update your “benefit” in par with your recent earnings / inflation – prior to re- appearance of your medical condition (which presently represents more complex in medical spectrum changes / conditions).

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    Comment by Andrew | April 21, 2011, 2:31 PM

    • I was told no to that. The benefits are a percentage of the income I was earning at the time of the accident. Period.

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      Comment by Beast | April 21, 2011, 2:47 PM