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Time for a longer school year?

Are we falling behind other countries? Would our children benefit from more time in the classroom? I think the answer to these questions is a resounding yes. Countries like India and China are already providing additional classroom times, with some even considering school all year round. This of course, would cause a lot of problems for many people and costs would go up. But there are many benefits as well, and for some the cost of daycare over the summer is a serious burden. After all, not everyone has the luxury of the entire summer off.

Our Society has been geared this way for a very long time and change would not come easy, but is that a good enough reason to not attempt it? At least experiment a little with the idea? I think a couple of weeks off around Christmas and then another two off during the summer is plenty. And this would give our kids more time for learning, and give the parents a break as well from the stress of filling their summer days, and daycare costs for those that have to work.

Instead of offering full time daycare in the schools this might be money better well spent. It would be hard to argue the benefits of more education, and the extra cost in maintenance and salaries would be minimal. The schools have to be maintained over the summer anyways, and we’re only talking a couple dozen more days of work for the staff. It’s a thought and I’d like to hear your ideas on the subject.

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September 1, 2012, 9:15 PM - Posted by | All News

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  1. Doesn’t matter what WE think,the teacher’s Unions will howl bloody murder! Your idea, a sensible one,I might add, is as likely to happen as the ending of Native Reserves.

    Comment by dmorris | September 1, 2012, 9:35 PM | Reply

  2. Well first I would say I agree on more classroom time spread out through out the year with less time off in the summer simply because 8 weeks is too long to be gone from school and have the kids retain what they just learned! Second, the daycare issue is huge for a lot of people. If your not lucky enough to get a subsidized daycare spot,what do you do for income and with your kids for EIGHT WEEKS?

    How does mom/dad keep a job and pay bills and feed families if they can’t work. Welfare ends up with families with no resources for care. Reducing the vacation time would give families more options for affordable daycare simply because they can financially manage a couple weeks at a time as opposed to 8 weeks plus.

    Full time daycare for two girls for two months if not subsidized is $2,000! . All year school with smaller breaks is better managed by families and kids don’t get out of routine and in my opinion would be better adjusted. There are so many different reasons that branch off from the idea of year round school that are worth looking at! not necessarily that they need more time but more consistent time in the classroom without added costs.
    Kids have 11 weeks off through the school year ,not including pd and pa days! They attend school for 10 months a year. So if they went all year round, with the same amount of vacation just spread out, that’s less then a week a month that we’d have to find care. Much more manageable! More time in classrooms will never fly, unless we stop giving our money away to Quebec and put into our kids education!

    Perhaps we could also look at banning HOMEWORK…let kids be kids after 6-7 hrs a day in a classroom a day, let families be families at the end of the day.

    Comment by beasts wife :) | September 1, 2012, 9:38 PM | Reply

  3. The difference between here and there, is that there the high school graduates are 16.
    There are advocates of big government that only want the kids in school all year, so they can grow the education system, not to be more efficient.
    All that would happen is the kids would still be in school longer but none the smarter, or more competitive.
    I suggest that the next time you get in a discussion on this subject, just to test where the others in the conversation are coming from, is ask whether they want to see kids finish school sooner.

    Comment by Joseph | September 1, 2012, 9:52 PM | Reply

  4. Joseph, you don’t think the kids would benefit from longer instruction times, and retain more of what they learn not having the long summer break? I’m not suggesting they graduate early. In fact the standards have been lowered and need to be put back where they were.

    Comment by Beast | September 1, 2012, 9:57 PM | Reply

    • You indicated that you agreed that we are behind. Their kids graduate sooner.
      How long does it take for a kid to get bored and lose interest?
      Another point is that in those other places, the parents choose private schooling so their kids can get ahead. We treat the system as either a sacred cow, or a replacement for the parents.
      If we want results, we have to be better than the rest. That means doing something faster and better than the rest.
      The school year is long enough now, if you want to keep the kids in school longer, then add an advantage to the kids of finishing sooner, otherwise only the system benefits.

      Comment by Joseph | September 2, 2012, 7:09 AM | Reply

      • If they can finish early with an above average score and level of achievement sure why not. If they can’t add or spell then they need to stay until they can.

        Comment by Beast | September 2, 2012, 11:29 AM | Reply

        • Not all learn at the same rate. But it doesn’t help to bore the kids. The public system will only provide a standard basic education, the rest is up to the parents.
          If they think their child isn’t getting a good education, they need to find out why.
          If the parents seem to believe the child needs more school time, then they need to consider private schooling.
          The govenment has never done anything well, they do things to accomodate the greatest number of people.
          Think about it, there was a time when the school system was more localized, one room schools, local boards. Then somebody decided it would be a great idea to centralize (big gov institution) the schools. The boards became less community centered, and more institutional centered.
          Now you have the schools more concerned about which interest group is going to be offended if it is not accommodated, rather than if the kids are actually learning.
          Here’s an example, when the liberals brought in full day kindergarten, they told us it was so the kids could get a good start in school. What I see is parents getting govenment mandated daycare.
          Again, instead of creating a bigger govenment entity, with it’s costs, do those things that encourage excellence, and greater freedom to achieve. Keeping a kid in school to be taught the same thing because, well they may have passed the grade, but they need to repeat it.

          Comment by Joseph | September 3, 2012, 7:46 AM | Reply

  5. With ALL of the increases already found throughout education levels for career attainment, how much smarter are modern day bankers, N.A. car designers, gov’t agency administrators, etc., as compared to a generation or two ago?
    More ‘education’, or is this really about more ‘Education’ – formalized? Thank god, the average kid can have some amount of time just to develop as a still-partially independent thinker. They’ll need it when it soon becomes time to pay for their parents and grandparents’ lifetimes of deficit financings and burdensome debt.

    Comment by CQ | September 2, 2012, 11:26 AM | Reply


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