Pedophilia: Mental Illness or not?
Having sex with a child is considered by most to be a sick and twisted behavior. The very thought of such a vile activity can invoke extreme feelings of anger and disgust in people, only to be compounded by the weak and very small punishments sometimes assigned to the people convicted of it. There has been much research done on this “disorder”, but still psychologists are no closer to a cure. They don’t know the cause, and in my mind that would have to come first to obtain a cure.
Is a person who faces multiple failures in relationships more prone to such behavior? Does a person who lacks assertion in their personality create the motive to feel powerful, and assert their dominance on the weak and vulnerable? Is it a chemical imbalance that is present that interferes with normal development? Or is it just Society’s way of coping with it.
Robbing a bank, murder, and assault are all crimes that involve some form of dominance. There is a goal, a need, and involves varying degrees of violence. Though the sexual aspect is not prevalent in these crimes, it must be noted that some have expressed that the activity and resulting rush “was better than sex”. But a bank robber is not considered mentally ill just because of the crime. Yet a person that sexually abuses a child or minor “must” be mentally ill, for we do not consider that act possible for a sane person.
Again, is that Society trying to rationalize it?
Not guilty by reason of insanity is a defense commonly used in court to defend against a heinous crime. Though the person can never have displayed any signs of it before, all of a sudden they are ill. And we are asked to believe that. Something in the human mind snapped, they are not responsible for their actions as a result. Hogwash. Killing your spouses lover in a fit of anger is not insanity, it’s rage. Anger is a normal human emotion, some people can control it better than others. Just as there are differences in how people handle financial difficulties. Some get a second job or retraining to better themselves and demand a higher salary. Some rob banks. Why some choose the latter does not mean some type of mental illness is involved.
Scientists and psychologists have been studying this issue for a long time, but are still no closer to determining the cause, or developing a cure. Yet knowing that fact convicted pedophiles are still treated by the courts as victims, and sentenced accordingly. Would you consider Pedophilia as a sexual orientation, like homosexuality? Believe it or not this guy does.
Once convicted part of the “punishment” is that the convicted pedophile may not reside within 1000-2000 feet of a school or daycare. Distances may vary from state to state. And they are all just as ludicrous as the next. How is that possibly going to stop it from happening again? Most likely they did not live that close in the first place. On-line luring of child is predominant in many cases, and we have seen shows where the potential perps show up to meet a supposed child for sex, only to meet the police or TV cameras.
Those caught in that situation should be facing prison time, just as a bank robber getting caught with a gun entering a bank would be. That the “crime” was not committed should have no bearing, the intent was there. The Charter of Rights is there to protect individuals from criminal or social wrongs. It is not there as a means of defense. Once a crime has been committed, or the attempt was there, the same rights enjoyed by the rest of Society should not apply.
There is no question that mental illness exists and is a very serious problem for many. And there is also no doubt that people suffering from various forms of this disease need help. But this should not involve putting the rest of Society at risk.
This is a case of a mentally ill person committing a crime, and the resulting punishment is actually a treatment. Society will benefit from this, as will the individual. Releasing a convicted pedophile back into Society is not the same thing.
So why are they treated that way?
Please take the time to convince our Governments to change how these criminals are handled, and better protect our young. How many more children have to be raped or murdered before we stop tolerating this behavior?
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I am very happily married and raising 5 children. Trying to make sense of it all, and living life to the fullest.. And, 
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The sexual abuse of a child is the most heinous of all crimes in our society. In my opinion there is only one punishment that is appropriate and it is absolute, death of the abuser.
I am unwilling to spend any time considering their reasons, I do not care. I don’t see the importance of what the reason offered by scientists or psychologists may be. Why does it matter be it a power trip, chemical imbalance, or failure to find a relationship.
Kill any animal that sexually abuses a child.
Doctors and psychologists will always be trying to uncover the reasons why these monsters feel the “NEED” to prey on children. I do feel it is very important to continue researching the causes in order to find a “cure”. IMO there something very chemically wrong with a person who preys on and has sex with any child! So in a sense…SEXUAL ORIENTATION…NOT Quite…but along the same lines. IMO you are born with certain genes that makes you more or less likely to become sexually engaged with the same sex. I feel it is an URGE that is NOT learned but dwells within until it surfaces!
Sex offenders IMO are the same thing…only I feel they are far more damaged then “different” then heterosexual or bisexual. Something is terribly wrong with the chemical make up of these people.
The reason chimos hide their “orientation” or preference is they KNOW it is very wrong but are DRIVEN to prey on vulnerable and innocent children. Society DOES NOT AND NEVER WILL accept this behaviour so they hide and sneak…MELISSA HUCKABY for example..Caring about WHY they do this will hopefully lead to the END!
IN THE MEANTIME…GPS FOR KIDS…AND LOCKDOWN FOR ALL SEX OFFENDERS! ONE BY ONE, OFF THE STREETS…how many kids would be saved from abuse when ONE offender gets locked up and stays there? Wasn’t it said that an offender offends up to 70 times until they are caught! That is extremely alarming to think all sex offenders on average in this world have offended that many times before being caught.
Having said that, if and when it is revealed on WHY this is happening at such a large rate, how would we stop them BEFORE they get to 70 offenses?
CA,you put it perfectly and simply,YES I too believe it is an URGE,that one day surfaces and is acted on,or a sick FANTASY,that one day affords an opportunity to act out that fantasy.What can we do to stop this?Early detection?How do you detect a hidden urge?Protect and educate our children,well implanting a GPS seems like one way of assuring their safety,or is it?
Something has to be done and NOW!
By the time they study these rejects, who knows how many children will be killed? And who knows IF there is an answer? Just losers, rejects, mutants?
And yes, they DO KILL NOW! No longer EVER “just” a rape.They HAVE learned to leave no witnesses. Before, they just raped … which is considered “Soul Murder”. But NOW they have learned by watching other “cases”, that they must kill because live survivors can identify. I have watched this happen duriing my lifetime … rapes are always murders now. Didn’t used to be that way.
One of the saddest things about computers is how these mutants hook up, have sites, and learn from each other. SAD day in cyber space.
Ron Cummings had sex with a minor a 17 yr.old,is he a Pedophile?Yet he still maintains custody of his minor son,my question is:Does Pedophelia have an age requirement? Excellent article Sean!
What is the difference between statutory rape and Pedophelia?
Sean, I forgot to say, as usual, excellent article. AND as usual, excellent TOPIC that needs to be hilighted and addressed, OFTEN till RESOLVED!!!
Yes, CA I heard they offend 70 times before caught … on an average. Then what? Revolving door justice for them? So what does that do? I see. It cuts down their “total offenses”, by keeping them off the streets for maybe 1/10 of their life while they are in jail? Wonderful solution … isn’t it.
WHY WHY does it take SO LONG for CHANGE?? WHAT IS GOING ON? If it weren’t so horrendous, it would seem like a very BAD JOKE! They must be laughing at our laws and us.
I just did a small search on Pedophiles. The average Pedophile abuses anywhere from 244 – to 380 children/times in their lifetime. Some might be repeated offenses to the same child.
For every 3 male abusers, there is one female abuser. Their crimes are much more hidden.
So if they spend say 10% of their life in jail, (in and out, and in and out), they have offended (using the top figure of 380), only 342 children and NOT 380?
WHAT GREAT LAWS! WHAT A PERFECT SOLUTION!!
I suppose it will take some horrible rape/murder of some Senator or Judge’s child, for our laws to change.
*Depends on whose ox is being gored.*
Maybe one good thing … once in jail, they will get poetic justice done to them… from their fellow inmates. Maybe we should figure out how to publicize their crimes when caught, making SURE it is known in the Prison what they have done! The inmates will do the rest, if they know. Very bottom of the food chain.
You’re Mine (You) … (old tune)
Look at Mary Kay Latorneu,she was married with children,educated in a very respectable career,she had the support of her father and her victims family.She is married to her victim now and is still a registered sex offender and has minor children living with her,where is the line drawn?
good point…if a sex offender has children…those parents should not have custody..PERIOD!
I could never understand Mary Kay, wasn’t the boy like 8 when she 1st had him in her class?
Terisa … wasn’t Marie L.’s father a pedophile too?
I remember something about her father having been in trouble for something. I think he was a politician in Cali? Maybe someone else knows the story. I just recall her father being a factor.
Heart I never heard that was he?Maybe that’s way he defended his daughter???
huckaby was married at one time and had a daughter and to my knowledge she wasn’t abused?I think Huckaby snapped,but that urge had to have been sitting there dormant!that DORMANT URGE can’t be detected,that’s the problem~IMO~
that’s what I was saying too ….detecting early would only be from admittance from the potential perp. What do you think the chances of changing the laws TO LIFE IN PRISON WITHOUT PAROLE ON FIRST OFFENSE…would bring these people forward as to not offend and risk their own lives in jail forever…IT WILL ALL START WITH TOUGHER LAWS!
Misguided … male “urge”?
I guess losers can’t make it with thinking, smart, adult women, and have to feel bigger, stronger, smarter, better etc. so they gravitate to babies. THEN they can.
Says a lot about them. Incredible losers.
Why do the jails protect these people?why arent they in general pop.from day one,that might deter some,now they know they’ll get a private room.
Heavy topic Sean, good article with much to think about. I would think there are varying reasons as to the why. From having been abused themselves to some inner defect, & all points in between.
I have never seen an exact as to why, just as you can’t explain why so many who were abused don’t re offend. Not every poor man robs a bank, not every scorned lover commits murder. When one crosses the laws created to protect society there is a penalty & it should be upheld, regardless of the why.
I can understand it being an urge, whether born from their own pain or simply desire, bottom line is there has to be a choice to act on it IMO.
In the whole grand scheme of things, if someone hurt my child I wouldn’t give a rats about why they were ’sick’.
I think there are plenty of peeps that have had a hard life and abused sexually, mentally and physically and live in poverty or are privileged, who DO NOT abuse anyone in any way. These are people that don’t IMO have the genetic misfiring that predators have. The ones who have had all the above in their life and have the faulty genetic predisposition are the ones who ACT on the urge…there own abusive lives are catalysts IMO that bring the genetic make-up of these animals to the surface when they act upon them.
I say this because I believe that their sexual orientation is NOT a chosen one! The crime is acting on them instead of getting help!!! What kind of mental over-ride do these people have that would allow them to commit such a disgusting and vile crime…let alone killing them in the end? I do NOT believe they are mental…they hide and sneak..and do not seek help…knowing full well what is going through their minds when they plan and stalk their next victim. The thoughts are not the crime IMO I feel it’s NOT A VOLUNTARY THOUGHT PROCESS..but the ACT is the crime and the fact they follow their urges instead of seeking help. They know it’s wrong, yet they do nothing..THAT IS WHY LETTING THEM OUT IS WRONG! They will always follow the urge, it is much stronger then their conscience! THEY WILL ALWAYS GIVE IN!
Absolutely CA. That’s why IMO no one can say why some become a criminal or a deviate. Too many are dealt the same cards & make different choices, that’s how I see it anyway.
If one guy cries he is a pedophile because he was abused, then another guy who was abused as well doesn’t become a pedophile, I view the 1st guy as using abuse an excuse for the choice he made.
yes Beth, quite possibly they use as an excuse to even themselves and it likely plays a part, but it is certainly NOT the cause!!
Neither would I care Beth, as to their “reason/excuse”.
Many criminals lie I believe during their Trial, anyhow, and play the “pity card”. I’m not interested in WHY. There comes a time in one’s life where people make their choices and have to take the consequences of their actions!! As I always say …”They are out of the playpen – and in the big world now!”
I say give them LIFE – in genereal population!!! Ah – poetic justice, and great KARMA. Why CAN’T that be the law? Make too much sense? Throw back to an eye for an eye … maybe?
Ditto Heart, I just posted that I see it as being an excuse. No one goes through the world unscathed, it’s who or what we let it make us that matters IMO.
I have heard of sex offenders begging to be kept in jail saying they WILL RE-OFFEND! So they know, only a small few will admit, the rest will walk and re-offend, likely 99% of them will opt to walk and offend then to do what’s right!!
I saw an older guy interviewed once from prison & he said he would re offend if let out. I can’t remember his name or I’d link the story. He was a pedophile, long history of little boys. He talked about it openly, sick but it gave some insight!
I for one would never consider pedofilia a ‘mental illness’. Wouldn’t that be like saying homosexuality is a mental illness?
IMO, rape is rape. A rapist, is not considered mentally ill. At least imo. There is no cure for anyone who has no self control over criminal impulsive behavior.
I don’t, nor will I ever understand a sexual attraction to a child. Those who violate the weakest of our society should be put away forever. There is no possibility for rehabilitation. Unless chemical castration is a possibility, or removing that part of someones brain which controls sexuality. I don’t know if that would be constitutional.
Myself, I view that 19.5 yr old who had sex with someone just outside of the 3 year window with consent laws in most states, much differently than anyone over 18 having sexual relations with or violating a minor child who has most likely not reached puberty. Two different things entirely, imo. I do feel sorry for those who have to live with the RSO label who were convicted just outside that usual 3 year window, especially from those who lump them in one category and don’t recognize the difference based on age and charges.
jmo
great post cubby ~ Your right, everyone is born with different DNA and what sways you to either heterosexual or bisexual etc – anything other then heteroseuxual behavior except for pedophilia is NOT considered mental illness. so why is pedophilia linked to it?
I have heard and believe that the chemical make-up or might i say URGES that these monsters have comes from the brain, castration in itself would not stop the urges! I would think some kind of sexual inhibitor or brain surgery might be the answer.
Three cases come to mind of the three newest angels in heaven,Sandra,Tori and Nevaeh,all of these children knew these molestors,Tori,knew McClintock,from her mother(they both had a drug history)Sandra knew Huckaby(her friends mom)Nevaeh knew Daddy George(her mother basically rubbed her in his face)what then?only George had a previous sex crimes history.Maybe implanting a GPS in the scrotum of these chimos would be a deterent,or putting them in a secluded desert with each other,Huckaby is in a class of her own,GOD only knows what makes her tick!
There has been no evidence to suggest Tori was molested at this time
no but the chances that she was kidnapped for kicks and just to kill her are very small! There was a purpose and what else would it be!
Great Article! Very thought provoking! I do hope that we can initiate change. Alone we are but one voice but together we are a force to be reckoned with. We have GOT to invoke change in our laws. These pedophiles need to stop being treated in the criminal system like they stole a candy bar. There is NO crime more vile then those perpetrated on our children by these monsters.
Excellent article Sean..I agree with all the comments.
If the stupid laws says you must let them out after their first offence then…
TATTOO “CHIMO” ON THEIR FOREHEADS!
Well it would work wouldn’t it?
Jilly – AMEN SISTER! What a great idea! Might be a great way to make them THINK before they act if they knew they were going to get a big CHIMO tattoo on their forehead. And it sure would make it easier to know who to avoid and be fearful of! JILLY FOR PRESIDENT! (Hope you don’t mind moving to the States! LOL)
Oooooh Jules what a scary thought…hmmm…welllll…at least I would rule with an “iron fist” … no “fence sitting” waiting to see which side wins in Iran … nope!!!! … The good ol’ U.S of A wouldn’t know what had hit it if I had my way … mandatory life with hard labor for all chimos … and tax cuts for all citizens …
better not get me started
Sister, if I had my way, you’d have the job! I like the way you think! Obama is spending the future of the next 5 generations on his pet projects and bailing out the corporations (got to make sure they get their $1 million dollar bonuses using my tax dollars). But hey, I did get a $7 pay increase out of the deal…uh, that’s $7 every two weeks…..WHOOOPPPIIEEEE! And SOMEONE needs to take a firm stand against Iran and N. Korea before they both blow all of us off the face of the earth!
Are these pigs put in General Population when they DO go to jail? Maybe we could work on that.
I suppose if they hid Tori’s body well enough, and it wasn’t discovered for months like Caylee’s, we would never know if she was molested.
They are always working on perfecting their life’s work. If ONLY their energies were put to some productive use.
Good question Heart…I certainly hope so…at least then the repercussions would save the tax payer a few $$$’s.
Some countries have barbaric laws…but then the guilty do not live to offend again.
Some countries {like ours} are soooo politically correct that offenders often only get a slap on the wrist.
There has to be some “middle ground”… something MUST be done to deter the sex offenders…its getting almost impossible to protect our children!
Hope everyone is well over your side of the pond…hugs for now ♥♥♥
My name is Keith Smith. I was abducted, beaten and raped by a stranger. It wasn’t a neighbor, a coach, a relative, a family friend or teacher. It was a recidivist pedophile predator who spent time in prison for previous sex crimes; an animal hunting for victims in the quiet suburbs of Lincoln, Rhode Island.
I was able to identify the guy and the car he was driving. He was arrested and indicted but never went to trial. His trial never took place because he was brutally beaten to death in Providence before his court date. 34 years later, no one has ever been charged with the crime.
In the time between the night of my assault and the night he was murdered, I lived in fear. I was afraid he was still around town. Afraid he was looking for me. Afraid he would track me down and kill me. The fear didn’t go away when he was murdered. Although he was no longer a threat, the simple life and innocence of a 14-year-old boy was gone forever. Carefree childhood thoughts replaced with the unrelenting realization that my world wasn’t a safe place. My peace shattered by a horrific criminal act of sexual violence.
Over the past 34 years, I’ve been haunted by horrible, recurring memories of what he did to me. He visits me in my sleep. There have been dreams–nightmares actually–dozens of them, sweat inducing, yelling-in-my-sleep nightmares filled with images and emotions as real as they were when it actually happened. It doesn’t get easier over time. Long dead, he still visits me, silently sneaking up from out of nowhere when I least expect it. From the grave, he sits by my side on the couch every time the evening news reports a child abduction or sex crime. I don’t watch America’s Most Wanted or Law and Order SVU, because the stories are a catalyst, triggering long suppressed emotions, feelings, memories, fear and horror. Real life horror stories rip painful suppressed memories out from where they hide, from that recessed place in my brain that stores dark, dangerous, horrible memories. It happened when William Bonin confessed to abducting, raping and murdering 14 boys in California; when Jesse Timmendequas raped and murdered Megan Kanka in New Jersey; when Ben Ownby, missing for four days, and Shawn Hornbeck, missing for four years, were recovered in Missouri.
Despite what happened that night and the constant reminders that continue to haunt me years later, I wouldn’t change what happened. The animal that attacked me was a serial predator, a violent pedophile trolling my neighborhood in Lincoln, Rhode Island looking for young boys. He beat me, raped me, and I stayed alive. I lived to see him arrested, indicted and murdered. It might not have turned out this way if he had grabbed one of my friends or another kid from my neighborhood. Perhaps he’d still be alive. Perhaps there would be dozens of more victims and perhaps he would have progressed to the point of silencing his victims by murdering them.
Out of fear, shame and guilt, I’ve been silent for over three decades, not sharing with anyone the story of what happened to me. No more. The silence has to end. What happened to me wasn’t my fault. The fear, the shame, the guilt have to go. It’s time to stop keeping this secret from the people closest to me, people I care about, people I love, my long-time friends and my family. It’s time to speak out to raise public awareness of male sexual assault, to let other survivors know that they’re not alone and to help survivors of rape and violent crime understand that the emotion, fear and memories that may still haunt them are not uncommon to those of us who have shared a similar experience.
My novel, Men in My Town, was inspired by these actual events.
For those who suffer in silence, I hope my story brings some comfort, strength, peace and hope.
This post has been edited by the Moderator, all links have been removed.
Wow Keith thank you for sharing your story with us!It is sad to think that justice still isn’t being served for children everywhere now. Hopefully with enough voices we can change all that.
Yes thank you Keith for sharing. It takes a lot of bravery to overcome such a crime. I wish you the best in the future!
FWIW, this might be an unpopular view, but my hinky meter is up on this Keith Smith person who posted a comment with Seans latest article about pedophilia and mental illness.
Does it strike anyone else as odd that he is plugging a book yet, in all that he wrote in the comment section he never mentions the name of the man who violated him, despite that man being long dead? Nor did he add the names of any other victims that might have been in the news?
I mention this, because awhile back at Websleuths we had a guy who claimed to witness his step father, Dolph Ames murder several hitchhikers when Dalles. S. McKinsey the author of Childhood lost was about 8. While several WS’rs helped search missing persons as well as UID’s in the California area where this allegedly happened. All of Dalles info was fake… he was just plugging a book, until he couldn’t come up with any further lies and faked his death by suicide online last November. (then threatened to sue WS because he was ‘outed’ for posting online a few days later.)
I’m just hesitant with lack of details this Keith guy posted. I’ve seen enough ‘hoaxes’ with people preying on victims of the missing, and those with family members who have been murdered, at WS to have the hinky meter raised on this one. (Between Dalles, and the old Delia Cly case- when she faked being a kidnapped child when the old Sharon Marshall thread was booming.)
I’d be happy to apologize if I am wrong, but like I said, even with the breif search I did after reading his post, I saw nothing naming the alleged pedo. And the details were extremely breif.
Even when I follwoing and speaking with the detective working on the Barbara Gluckert case, missing from IL, 1976, she was a minor, and the dead perps name is published in hundreds of news archives.
Who hides a dead perps name, if the story is real?
jmo
Cubby
Forgot to add. Both the stories of Dalles S. McKinsey ( thread since removed at WS) and Delia Cly (thread also since removed, but google has a little info about her) really hurt a lot of very caring hard working people who not only offered a lot of support, but spent hours and hours on both ‘cases’ which took a life of their own for some time. IIRC, Dalles was over a year, and Delia was before my time at WS- so I don’t know how long the ‘case’ lasted before being proven a hoax.
IF Keiths story is real, I would like to see some news articles from valid sources.
Again, if I am wrong will apologize.
Cubby
Keith I will buy your book next week.
I hope you have the loving arms of some woman who can comfort you when you have these horrific nightmares, reliving the hell you went thru.
Karma caught up to him … brutaly beaten to death. I wonder who did that … maybe a boy that grew up, maybe a father, an uncle. Sweet poetic justice.
Thank you for finding us. We are a new, strong, nice group of people who care about children – all children, and try as HARD as we can to help them!
Thank you Keith for writing your book, and getting this information OUT THERE. I have a Professor friend that lives in R.I. I will tell him to get the book too.
Best wishes, and good luck with your life! If the above is a sample of your writing, it has to be a great book! I think all of us should buy your book not only to learn from it, but to help support you in your effort.
Remember THAT which doesn’t kill us, only makes us STRONGER!!! xxx
Keith thank you so much for sharing your story. I am so sorry you had to go thru that. May God always bless you. He has made you stronger. I will buy you book and share it with others. Perhaps there is some hope out there. Bless you
I wonder if there are any good studies about how many pedophiles were abused themselves when small?
I AM NOT – **NOT** MAKING EXCUSES FOR THESE PIGS … I am just wondering if that enters into the mix? Trying to figure out how to fix/stop this!!!
Too, I am wondering if this topic shouldn’t be sensitively brought up in school?
Maybe good touch, bad touch – think I read about that. IF discovered early, maybe therapy could save them, and possibly STOP another generation of abusers??? I know of one child who heard something on the TV about sexual abuse, and turned to her mother and said “That’s what Daddy does to me.” They were divorced and she went to his house – alone.
SIMPLE PLEASURES
So glad my son’s new adopted dog, Annie, ( whippet mix) has a GPS in her!!! YEAAA Annie! Because she is part whippet, she loves to run!
They have had her 6 weeks.The other day she got out of her collar (loves to do that and run), and she stood there, not quite knowing “AM I FREE? OR NOT?? Moved and realize she was LOOSE and TOOK OFF – like the wind!!
Young , long thin, rust colored body. They bought her a VEST because they live on a lake. Ha ha they said because she is thin and rust colored, she looks like a hotdog in a roll when in the water!! ROFL.